Garmin Forerunner 305 Wrist-Mounted GPS Personal Training Device
Garmin Forerunner 305 Wrist-Mounted GPS Personal

Garmin Forerunner 305 Wrist-Mounted GPS Personal Training Device

Manufacturer:
Garmin

UPC:
753759051969

Retail Price:
$535.70

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Also available:
The new Garmin Forerunner 405 in Black or Green
Note: Cyclists may want to consider the Garmin Edge 305 with Speed & Cadence Sensor
Features:
  • Monitors heart rate, speed, distance, pace, and calories burned for smarter, more effective conditioning
  • Powerful GPS navigator provides faster acquisition times and improves tracking under trees and near buildings
  • Delivers detailed post-workout analysis on bundled Training Center PC software (connects to PC via USB)
  • Includes rechargeable lithium-ion battery; measures 2.1 x 0.7 x 2.7 inches (W x H x D); 1-year warranty
Product Description
Package Includes: Forerunner 305, Heart rate monitor, docking cradle, expander strap, AC charger, PC/USB interface cable, Quick start guide, Garmin Training Center CD & owner's manual

The Garmin Forerunner 305 GPS System combines form and function. This combination running partner and personal trainer is designed for athletes of all levels. It features a high-sensitivity GPS receiver, new courses feature, and robust ANT wireless heart rate monitor for optimal performance. The super-sensitive GPS tracks your every move, even working on tree-covered trails and near tall buildings. The heart device monitors your heart rate, speed, distance, pace and calories burned so you can train smarter, more effectively. These taskmasters will continually push you to do your personal best. Courses feature lets you download recorded courses and compete against previous workouts Auto Pause pauses and resumes training timer GPS features - GPS with high-Sensitivity SiRFstarIII architecture Wireless communication between system devices via ANT protocol Display Size(WxH) - 1.3 x 0.8 (33 x 20.3 mm) Lap Memory - 1,000 laps Rechargeable internal lithium ion battery - lasts 10 hours (typical use) Waterproof - Submersible in one meter of water for up to 30 mins. Alerts - Time, distance, pace and heart rate Physical Size(WxHxD) - 2.1 x. 7 x 2.7 (53.3 x 17.8 x 68.6 mm) Weight - 2.72 oz. (77 g)

Heart rate monitor features - Transmission Range - approximately 3m (9.8ft) 3V CR2032 battery - lasts 3 years (1 hour per day) Physical size(WxHxD) - 13.7 x 1.4 x 0.5 (348 x 35.6 x 12.7 mm) Weight -. 74 oz (21 grams)

Editorial Review
Just when you thought Garmin had cornered the market on powerful, affordable, and effective wrist-mounted GPS devices, here comes the Forerunner 305. The release of this device is a major achievement from a design and technology perspective. This isn't just marketing-speak; the Forerunner 305 is the most accurate, most reliable wrist-mounted performance and GPS tracking tool we've ever tested. Yes, it's that good. While no device this compact can do everything (yet), the 305 pushes the boundaries of what is possible from something strapped around your wrist. The 305 model includes wireless heartrate monitoring and it can also be connected to Garmin's wireless bicycle speed and cadence sensor. If you don't need these features, consider the lower-priced Forerunner 205.

View Garmin's Forerunner demonstration video.



Choose from 12 data fields to display on the 305's screen.

The design cleverly integrates the GPS antenna and aims it towards the sky when you're running or walking.

The Virtual Partner function makes your workouts more competitive.

Choose from three workout modes that help you target your training goals.

The 305 features rudimentary mapping and location marking functions. Design
The 305's design is a radical departure from Garmin's previous generation of wrist mounted GPS devices, which reached a pinnacle with the Garmin Forerunner 301. While the 301 delivered accurate heart rate monitoring, good performance tracking, and decent GPS reception, it didn't quite deliver in the design department. The form factor was bulky and wearing it wasn't much different than duct taping a full-sized GPS device to your wrist.

Not so with the 305. Garmin's engineers obviously burned the midnight oil and have come up with a waterproof design that, while certainly not as small as a sports watch, feels just as comfortable. The curved casing allows the unit's antenna to face the sky when you're running, while the widescreen display is perfectly positioned for viewing when you need it. And the display certainly deserves a few kudos. While it's smaller than the display found on previous Forerunners, its resolution is far higher, offering incredible clarity and crispness.

Garmin has smartly given the 305 a simple button layout and the buttons have a nice tactile feel with good pressure response. The right side houses the menu selection and enter buttons, while the left houses a power/backlight button and a mode button. This simple and elegant solution is a big improvement over the sometimes confusing button functionality of previous Forerunners. View button layout.

The underside of the 305 is pretty nondescript, except for a row of contacts that interface with the included charging and data cradle. The cradle is small and unobtrusive and its single mini-USB port connects to either an included AC adapter, or a USB cable that connects to your PC. In addition to data transfer with the USB cable, you can also charge the 305's embedded lithium-ion battery via a powered USB connection from your computer.

GPS Performance
The big news about the Forerunner 305 is that it features an integrated, high-sensitivity SiRFstar III GPS receiver. What does this mean It means that the 305's ability to both track, and maintain a lock on, your position is better than anything before it. After an intial battery charge, the tester had the 305 on his wrist and was tracking speed and distance with GPS satellites within 3 minutes. The next time we used the 305, satellite acquisition was nearly instantaneous. A run through dense trees didn't faze the unit either; tracking remained true and steady. Performance on a bike was equally impressive. Whatever witchcraft has been cooked up by the designers of the SiRF technology, we like it!



The simple docking cradle makes charging and data connectivity a snap. While the Forerunner 305 isn't billed as a GPS navigation device, it does have some rudimentary mapping, waypoint marking, and routing capabilities. In addition to marking locations along your journey, you can zoom in or out of a simple map that displays your current direction and path. There's also a "go to location" feature that routes you back to your starting location, or to any location you have defined. Once you have defined several locations, you can save this information as a route, allowing you to travel the same path in the future. As you'll see below, the 305's new "Courses" feature gives you new levels of control over how you define your favorite runs and rides.

Training Functions
The 305 is first and foremost a training tool, and its ability to organize a ton of data types into a user experience that is intuitive and simple is no small feat. Whiz-bang technology aside, if you can't use it and make it a natural part of your exercise routine, it's worthless. When it comes to these factors -- and here's the take home message on the 305 -- this device is successful where many other devices fail.

The heart and soul of the 305 can be found on the data screens, which give you real-time information about all aspects of your workout. In fact, the 305 can display a dizzying array of data, such as calories burned, distance, elevation, grade, and heading, as well as multiple lap and pace modes. The 305 adds the ability to track heartrate, lap heartrate, average heartrate, and heartrate zones via the included coded heartrate chest strap. With the purchase of a separate wireless cadence and speed meter, you can also track bike performance data.

Thankfully, the device makes it easy to define how much or how little data you want to view during a workout. You can arrange the data that's most important to you and then make that data appear front and center on the device. Indeed, within a few minutes of skimming the manual and fiddling with the device setup, you'll have your most important data displaying just the way you like it. The ability to display heartrate is a big plus, too, as it's a fairly good indicator of excercise output, fatigue, and fitness level. The 305 has all the heartrate functions you'd expect from a full-function monitor, including the ability to set target zones and alerts to maximize the effectiveness of your workouts.

Garmin's Virtual Partner function was cool feature of previous Forerunners and they've decided to keep a good thing going with the 305. If you're the type that performs best when you've got a competitor egging you on, you'll love this function, as it allows you to set up virtual running or biking companions that compete against you.

If you're looking for an complicated workout with a variety of intervals and intensity levels, or just a quick three-mile jog against your best time last week, the 305 has you covered. Navigating to the Workouts menu on the device yields three options: Quick Workouts, Interval, and Advanced Workout. A quick workout is just that; set the distance and time, distance and pace, or time and pace of your planned workout and off you go. Interval workouts are just the same, but they allow you to add repetitions and rest between them. When you really want to get fancy with your exercise, you can step up to advanced workouts, which include goals for each workout step, as well as varied distances, times, and rest periods. You can use the Garmin Training Center software to set up these workouts and then upload them to the device.

PC Connectivity and Software
Garmin has been outfitting their devices with USB connectivity for some time now -- a welcome move for those who struggled with serial port connections in the days of yore. Thanks to USB, the 305 integrates seamlessly with the Training Center software and we quickly had workout history uploaded and stored on the PC (Sadly, Training Center is not Mac-compatible). Not only does Training Center make it easy to track your performance, you can graph data such as heartrate alongside your speed and distance. Over time, this is a great way to view your fitness levels increase, and it also helps you see what types of workouts are necessary to strengthen your weaknesses. For instance, if you see your heartrate begin to spike after a certain distance, you know you need to increase your endurance workouts to train that area of fitness.

In a first for the Forerunner series, the Training Center software also lets you define courses on your PC that you can upload to the device. When course information is combined with uploaded workout information, the Forerunner becomes a complete guide, telling you where to go, when to make a turn, and what kind of workout to do when you're on the road or path. Back on the PC, the software's ability to overlay workout data on maps of the course makes it easy to see where the course offers up the tough hills and the easy recovery spots. Plus, the ability to track historical performance on a given course is a great way to measure your improvement.

The 305 is also fully compatible with Garmin's MotionBased service, which takes your training to another level by connecting your data with the Internet. While we weren't able to use the service, the promise of sharing courses, maps, workouts, and performance data with other users is intriguing. And if you're a serious endurance athlete, you'll be glad to know that the 305 is also compatible with TrainingPeaks.com, an easy-to-use web based training system designed to help athletes train for any event.

Pros
  • Radically new design is better in every way
  • Amazing accuracy and fast satellite acquisition time
  • So simple to set up and use, you will actually use it
Cons
  • No Mac OS compatibility
  • Okay, it's bigger than a sport's watch -- but so much more powerful
What's in the Box
Forerunner 305, Garmin Training Center CD-ROM, heart rate monitor, docking cradle, expander strap, A/C charger, USB cable, owner's manual, quick start guide.

Editorial Review
The successor to the Garmin Forerunner 301 is here, and it's better than ever. Weighing in at just over 2.5 ounces, the Garmin Forerunner 305 breaks new ground in terms of comfort, style, and performance. Totally redesigned, the 305 gives outdoor athletes and runners real-time information about speed, distance, pace, and heart rate on a device that's easy to use and amazingly compact.

The Forerunner 305 features the powerful new SiRF GPS navigation chip for supreme accuracy, even under tree cover and between tall buildings. A coded chest strap heart-rate monitor prevents unwanted interference from other devices.
The unit's GPS receiver is designed to face towards the sky when you're running.
A more watch-like design makes it far easier to use and wear. Plus, the 305 is engineered to help folks train better and smarter. Training assistant tools, various distance and time alerts, and bundled Training Center PC software combine to make the device an essential part of any athlete's training program.

The 305's digitally coded heart-rate monitor--which is worn as a chest strap--sends heart-rate data to the device so you can see whether you're training too hard or not hard enough. Alerts for pace, distance, time, and heart rate are also available. Additionally, the unit tracks speed, distance, pace, and calories burned. Meanwhile, a course feature lets you race against previous runs in order to improve your time or just compare heart rate and pace data at every point of the way.

The 305's easy-to-read, 1.3-inch display has been integrated into a sleek and stylish form factor that is definitely a step up from the larger and more cumbersome Forerunner 301 model. Indeed, the 305 looks and wears like a stylish sports watch, and it's more carefully designed to meet the needs of athletes. The design also positions the antenna with an optimal view of the sky. As an added feature, the case is water resistant to IEC 60529 IPX7 standards (can be submerged in one meter of water for 30 minutes).

Accuracy is the name of the game with the 305. The vastly more accurate GPS antenna and receiver, which uses an advanced SiRF chip, offer much faster satellite acquisition times. Plus, the unit can hold a fix in places never before possible. Gone are the days of losing a fix under tree cover or when running between tall buildings. All of these features add up to far more accuracy in recording and tracking your exercise data. And because the 305 uses GPS to track how far and how fast you're going, you never have to calibrate it. The unit also doubles as a basic navigator. Mark your starting point as a specific location, see your current position on the plotter display, and follow an electronic breadcrumb trail back to your starting point.

The 305 features a USB data connection and docking cradle for downloading your speed, lap, exercise time, and heart-rate data into Garmin's Training Center PC software. The unit stores up to 1,000 lap histories, which you can download to your PC for a detailed post-workout analysis. Plus, you can create and schedule workouts using the included software and download them to the unit. A rechargeable internal lithium-ion battery offers up to ten hours of battery life.

For additional post-workout analysis, the 305 is compatible with MotionBased software. MotionBased adds a new dimension to training and outdoor fitness that makes the analytical aspects of a sport more compelling and a lot more fun. You can upload data to MotionBased, a Web-based application that has partnered with Garmin. MotionBased provides in-depth analysis of your workouts, as well as online mapping and route sharing that will take your training to the next level. MotionBased automatically calculates time, distance, speed, elevation, and heart rate, and it displays this information through meaningful charts, illustrations, reports, and maps. With MotionBased, you can also race multiple instances of the same route to see how you are improving or to race other members of MotionBased. You can "virtually race" someone you don't even know.

If you like the features of the Forerunner 305 but don't need heart-rate monitoring, be sure to check out the Forerunner 205.

What's in the Box
Forerunner 305 unit, digital coded heart rate monitor, Training Center CD-ROM, A/C charger, PC/USB interface cable, owner's manual, and quick-start guide.
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Product Specifications
Product NameGarmin Forerunner 305 Wrist-Mounted GPS Personal Training Device
ManufacturerGarmin
Product Number MPN010-00466-02
Retail Price $535.70
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UPC753759051945
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Dimensions6.4 x 6.4 x 6.4 in.
Weight2 lbs.

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Reviews
5 Star Rating  "Very Pleased"2008-10-06
- Reviewed By User: A1YH5I2YN6NT07
I recieved this watch for my birthday. I did alot of research before and was torn between the newest model and this one. I decided to go with th 395 because of the wealth of reviews and the negative reviews from the newer model. Definately the rigt choice. I have used in in downtown INDy as well as in wooded areas. I have never had difficult getting a signal. No problems and am happy I went with the 305. It is slightly bigger than a regular watch but I dont where it to make a fashion statement. Great workout partner
 
2 Star Rating  "Great toy, not a training tool"2008-10-05
- Reviewed By User: A10NTPI2U8T9YY
I have used the ForeRunner 305 for alomst two years. While I have not had the nightmares that other people have had (such as complete unit failure), I have had some very aggravating issues. These are:br /br /1) Incredibly long satellite aquisition time. Sometimes this is twenty minutes or more! Very annoying.br /2) Totally unreliable data for calories and altitude. I ran on a beach, right at the water's edge, where I was certainly at sea level for the entire run. I even started and stopped in the same place. The data came back saying that I had gained 650 ft. of altitude. This murders the calorie data as it adds energy to get you up the hill that does not exist. Why generate data for training if it is worthless? Basically, it makes the unit worthless for its primary function.br /3) Garmin training center is terrible and inflexible.br /4) Pace and speed fluctuate unrealistically across the run.br /br /I do not want to be completely negative, because there are some nice things. The watch and heart monitor are comfortable. It is neat to be able to export to Google Earth and see where you have gone. The distance measurements seem to be relatively accurate.br /br /All in all, a great toy but not a training tool at all!
 
5 Star Rating  "I'm amazed with this...."2008-10-05
- Reviewed By User: A2XP9IPNZQD7BO
WOW!! I was wondering if I should get the 305 or the new 405. I read probably all the reviews on both and finally decided for the 305. I just did my first run with it yesterday... only 7 miles but, I'm amazed by the size and reception. br /I'm in East Africa and thought about the reception. I have to go under two bridges and over them in my route... Never lost the signal. br /As soon as I opened the package and turn it on, even inside my house, I got the gps signal. It was so easy to set up and understand how to use it.br /The 305 was a little big at first but, I wear in my wrist and felt like my old timex expedition... not a problem!!br /I haven't use the HR monitor yet, but it seems great. My wife has the Garmin 50 and we can both run with the HR after they are sync with their watches. It makes the run easier and more enjoyable!!!br /Great product, great buy... fun to run with!!
 
5 Star Rating  "No more getting lost in the mountains! "2008-10-05
- Reviewed By User: A2LZEPYFME30HW
Got a 305 from my wife for my 62nd birthday. I am daily mountain runner and an electrical engineer, so this is a perfect present!. First a word about some of the complaints listed by other posters:br /br /Setup is very easy, although there are lots of variables and preferences to set, you only do it once, and the whole idea of this thing is detailed metrics on your workout. Battery life is right at the claimed 8 hours. The heart rate monitor is excellent, and looks and works suspiciously like my Polar. I took it on many test runs in the mountains of Albuquerque while also carrying my Garmin Etrex, and the two matched very well except as noted below. Running an official 10k course, the mileage was within 1/10 mile. On very twisty runs, or urban courses where GPS can be marginal at times, the accuracy drops a bit, but not bad.br /br /The Trace back feature is wonderful. Even on hairpin mountain trails the strobe points the way home in very tight real time. Surprisingly the compass is not as quick and sometimes takes many seconds to swing after a turn; the Etrex is much quicker.This leads to my only two complaints br /1) There is no MOB (man overboard) button that sets a waypoint at current position and references the compass to it on GO TO in a single stroke. It takes several button pushes to get there. This is something I do in any new location, like my hotel on a business trip, so a one button Home reference would be nice.br /2) The Trace Back function doesn't really tell you if you totally miss a turn. The strobe points back to the correct direction for about 100 yards and then defaults to pointing at the trail end location. I'd like to hear a "wrong way dummy" alarm.br /br /The included software for post-run analysis is a real kick and works well. No more cheating and excuses. br /br /Overall, the device is great. It's a fun and useful workout tool, and a magnificent piece of engineering design.
 
5 Star Rating  "Great Unit - but don't try to swim with it!!!"2008-09-24
- Reviewed By awaz15
I love my forerunner 305 for skiing, on the bicycle, for skating and for running - but it just broke because i jumped into the sea after a run and the unit immediately failed. The good thing is, it is not as expensive as it once was, so i am ordering a new one right away!
 
4 Star Rating  "GPS on the run"2008-09-18
- Reviewed By User: AMDKXQ2Q5A77U
Works great, downtown between buildings or in the woods. When you fire it up it may take a few minutes to acquire the signal but besides that always fun to know your exact pace. It helped me stay on pace to qualify for Boston. Watch size may appear bulky but it is light.
 
5 Star Rating  "Works great!"2008-09-15
- Reviewed By User: A3A7T5FZC9OF40
I ran with a Forerunner 201 for a few years when the power button seemed to go out on it. I decided to go with the 305 to get the HRM and experiment with that for training. The 305 works just as advertised. It obtains the satellites faster and holds the signal better. I run a lot of trails under tree cover and the 201 would invariably give me weak signal alerts. I don't think I've gotten such an alert with the 305 in the few weeks I've had it.

The Garmin workout software is not bad, but I'm able to directly import data from the 305 to SportsTrack, which is great. Makes analyzing the routes and comparing runs across days very easy.

I'm very pleased with the unit...especially at the price on Amazon!
 
4 Star Rating  "Great out of the box with advanced features I keep learning about"2008-09-15
- Reviewed By User: AZW0IRN3N9BM
I'm new to running and find this sport watch very helpful. The heart monitor is also a plus, even after running to check out how I did during my runs.
Though it is sometimes a bit slow to locate satellites, I use that time to be sure I've stretched enough before starting out.
I especially like the auto pause, since some of my runs force me to cross streets and I don't have to try and recalculate my pace based on time I stopped for a light to turn green.
Highly recommend it.
 
5 Star Rating  "excellant"2008-09-14
- Reviewed By User: A1O6EFLV1A36ZR
easy to use. Tons of features and options. Easy to pair with foot pod or heart rate monitor. GPS reception is very good. I used it under very heavy tree cover with 100% acuracy.
 
3 Star Rating  "Loved it for months until it broke"2008-09-12
- Reviewed By peggu06
I have been a runner for years but have never bought into the gadgetry hype until this year. Until now, I have been content running sans music, headphones, stop watch, heart rate monitor, etc. For mileage I would just use online mapping tools. After winning a contest with the prize being an amazon.com gift certificate, I decided what the heck, and purchased the Garmin Forerunner 305.

It arrived in due course and having seen all the pictures online, I knew it wasnt going to be beautiful (like my Rolex- ha ha! just kidding on that). It looked very Star Trek-ish but I am not big on trying to look fashionable when I am running; I am too busy sweating to care. I have average sized wrists and this watch hurts a bit when I wear it. I have to use it on the hole that gives the tightest fit, or it will slip and slide around and hit my wrist bone painfully. But that wasnt a deal breaker.

The instructions said to power up outside and wait for it to locate satelites. I went outside, turned it on, and waited, and waited, and waited. I was in the middle of my apartment complex parking lot, no trees, no buildings blocking the sky. Also, at the time I was living in a prominent central NJ town and definitely not in a remote, off the beaten path area. Yet it took minutes to locate satelites.

But once it was on- it was on!!! I did a test run on a path that had mile markers and was really pleased that the Garmin marked those distances with accuracy! After my run, I played around it some more. Now I am a low tech type of girl, so I was content to set the watch to display the time elapsed, the time of day, and the average pace. Some people may claim the pace function is inaccurate but to me it's pretty relative, I dont need to know exactly how fast (or more likely, how slow) I am moving AT THAT SECOND. I'm content to know how my overall run went. My favorite features are the auto lap reset (I tell it to mark each mile and then I hvae a nice readout of my splits at the end) and the auto alarm feature. At first, I set the alarm to go off at a certain distance, at which I'd turn around and run back thus ensuring a cover the amount I set out to. Later, for training runs I did use the alarm feature for when my pace dropped below the limit I set- and believe me, it was annoying but also a good motivator to get my butt moving!

If you look at the photos, you will see the display is pretty large. I have no problems reading it more the most part. The two buttons under ths display are very touch responsive. however, the four buttons on the side are pretty tough to hit. I have to dig a fingernail into them to get them to respond. That's fine when I'm stationary but takes some effort when I am moving. And that sucks because in order to turn on the backlight, you must push the power on button. So basically when I did my runs in the pre-dawn darkness, I'd just give up and rely on the beeps of my watch instead.

I've mentioned I found the distance to be quite accurate. I ran a few road races with teh watch and each time, it was spot on. Granted, I was running pretty much in straight lines and in lightly wooded areas. As I'm about to explain, I think the Garmin is great UNTIL you go off road. More on that later.

The Garmin definitely brought out the OCD monster in me. With all this knowledge at my fingertips, suddenly I was keeping obsessive track of how far I ran, how fast, how long. The Garmin can plug into the usb port of your computer and downloads the info. Do NOT use the propriatary software included in teh box. It sucks. It is really basic and crappy. You are better off designing your own Excel spreadsheet; or, download a much better workout tracker. The software actually did something weird to my computer and kept running in the background even after I "closed" it (could see an icon in the system tray). However, I did not mind so much because it was the actual Garmin unit that I cared about.

And then. It happened. The Garmin broke.
Well, first what happened was I visited my parents in a more rural part of the country. The Garmin took a long, loong time to locate satelites (I think it had memorized my old NJ address) and then it said it couldnt locate any. The pace feature did nto work but the stop watch did. Fine, I thought. When I went back to NJ, it again took a loooooong time to locate satelites, and then it gave me the "cannot find" message, which I thought ???? I turned it off, turned it back on, and finally it found satelites. I also noted at that time the bleeps and blurps had grown distinctly fainter.

Then in the past month I moved, still within NJ, but now my neighborhood has lots of trees. O my first run, the Garmin could not locate any satelites. I ran anyway. The following days, it still couldnt find any satelites, and I noticed the progress bar it shows when it tries to find satellite signal was not even moving. So did it "teach" itself to give up trying to find my location? As noted before, the sound volume had also gotten really soft. And then it died. Completely and utterly. I had charged it just the night before so I wondered if I'd accidentally knocked it askew on the charging cradle (aquite possible as it is a very loose connector). Charged it up again that night, but the next day it still wouldn't turn on. I put it back on the charging cradle and saw the unit displayed "Charge complete" Eh? I pulled it off. No power. Put it back on the charger. Said it was "on" PUlled it off. Nothing. so basically I have a Garmin that runs on DC but not otherwise. That will do me little good when I am outside running.

That is pretty much how it stands right now. I hvae tried contacting customer service, and that is a big big BIGJOKE. The 1-800 number is just awful, and no matter what time I call, the wait is always 35-40 minutes. And I have yet to get a human on the line. I called the other number (has an area code) and this very sourly woman came on and promptly transferred me to the automated 1-800 number! I called again, got her again, and when I told her she'd transfered me to the damn "hotline" she hung up on me. Sigh. The other option Garmin tries to steer you towards is using the online product support but that's alo a joke. I dont get any replies until days later, and they're always from different people. I have started replying and in my replies I would quote from the email chain below the message. The tech support guy (always is a guy's name) would just write back some robotic message that clearly ignored every point I made in my original messages. For example, I would state I could not power on the unit when it is not on the cradle, and tech support would email me back telling me to "power on the unit." UGH.

So this is my rather longwinded report....I am glad I had my little few months of fun with the Garmin but it appaers the honeymoon period is over.

 
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